How to get best results from the FreeBSD-questions mailing list
Greg Lehey
grog@FreeBSD.org
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This document provides useful information for people looking to prepare an e-mail to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. Advice and hints are given that will maximise the chance that the reader will receive useful replies.
This document is regularly posted to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list.
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1 Introduction
FreeBSD-questions is a mailing list maintained by the FreeBSD project to help people who have questions about the normal use of FreeBSD. Another group, FreeBSD-hackers, discusses more advanced questions such as future development work.
Note: The term ``hacker'' has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is ``cracker'', but the popular press has not found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. For a longer description of hackers, see Eric Raymond's How To Become A Hacker
This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the ``newcomers''), and also those who answer the questions (the ``hackers'').
Inevitably there is some friction, which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accuse the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accuse the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there is an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.
In this document, I would like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we will look at how to answer one.
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2 How to subscribe to FreeBSD-questions
FreeBSD-questions is a mailing list, so you need mail access. Send a mail message to <majordomo@FreeBSD.org> with the single line:
subscribe FreeBSD-questions
majordomo is an automatic program which maintains the mailing list, so you do not need a subject line. If your mailer complains, however, you can put anything you like in the subject line.
When you get the reply from majordomo telling you the details of the list, please save it. If you ever should want to leave the list, you will need the information there. See the next section for more details.
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3 How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from <Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG>. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here is a typical message:
Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list!
If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send
mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command in the body
of your email message:
unsubscribe freebsd-questions Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.de>
Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to,
in case you don't already have it:
FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions
This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD.
You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless
you consider the question to be pretty technical.
Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you do not need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed.
If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you are not on the list, this may mean one of two things:
You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That is where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as
grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to
grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove
grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined.
You are subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that is the case, you will have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you are not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there is a clue there.
If you have done all this, and you still can not figure out what is going on, send a message to <

ostmaster@FreeBSD.org>, and he will sort things out for you. Do not send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can not help you.
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4 Should I ask -questions or -hackers?
Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it is not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however:
If the question is of a general nature, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX® utility.
If you think the question relates to a bug, but you are not sure, or you do not know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions.
If the question relates to a bug, and you are sure that it is a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers.
If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers.
There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this does not mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it is in your interest to stick to them, since you are more likely to get good results that way.
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5 Before submitting a question
You can (and should) do some things yourself before asking a question on one of the mailing lists:
Try solving the problem on your own. If you post a question which shows that you have tried to solve the problem, your question will generally attract more positive attention from people reading it. Trying to solve the problem yourself will also enhance your understanding of FreeBSD, and will eventually let you use your knowledge to help others by answering questions posted to the mailing lists.
Read the manual pages, and the FreeBSD documentation (either installed in /usr/doc or accessible via WWW at
http://www.FreeBSD.org), especially the handbook and the FAQ.
Browse and/or search the archives for the mailing list, to see if your question or a similar one has been asked (and possibly answered) on the list. You can browse and/or search the mailing list archives at
http://www.FreeBSD.org/mail and
http://www.FreeBSD.org/search/search.html#mailinglists respectively. This can be done at other WWW sites as well, for example at
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com.
Use a search engine such as Google or Yahoo to find answers to your question. Google even has a BSD-specific search interface.
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